Wi DNR at it Again

I guess if you harvest a Muley, Elk or Moose in Co or any other state that has CWD this yr, you will have to have the local Taxi. do it since you can no longer trans it into Wi., or wait for all of the meat to fall of first. Come on Wi DNR get with the program.

 

Transportation of Hunter Harvested Deer Carcasses and

 

Vehicle Killed Deer

 

from Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) Management Zone

 

New Rules Take Effect Sept. 1, 2009

 

If you plan to transport the deer outside the areas identified below and on the attached map, you will need to

butcher, or arrange to have the deer butchered, before transporting the allowed parts from the affected area.

- Under new rules passed by the DNR in 2008, and which take effect 9-1-09, transportation of whole or

certain parts of deer carcasses from some parts of this or other states to other areas in Wisconsin will be

restricted.

- These rules were created to further minimize the risk of spreading CWD within Wisconsin.

- There are a few exceptions for certain parts of deer carcasses and for whole deer

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

Gary---That is no big deal as most states, including my state of Michigan, have had the same requirements for the last few years.  It looks like Wis. is just catching up!!!

Mike Stephenson
aka Topgun----30-06

Top,
 Maybe I'm just reading more into it than there is. It looks to me that it will make it difficult for me, in my non-cwd zone there to trans my animal to a cwd zone where my folks live for processing. Andit was my understanding that when they first started this cwd crap, that when they did sample for testing, it was tissue taken fromt eh brain of the animals, that is why so many of the deer and elk farmers there werre so outraged. They would have to submit their animals for testing and end up loosing them because of the way they had to be tested.

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

I don't read it that way.  It says you can only bring the processed parts in if it was killed in a non-CWD area.  The way it looks to me, there would be no problem moving your animal to where your parents live to be processed if it was taken in a non-CWD designated area in Wisconsin or any other state.  Unless there is now a way to test for CWD that I'm not aware of, they do have to take lymph nodes from the head area to do the testing.  When I shot a mulie early in my hunt a few years ago out in Wyoming and had to have it processed and frozen out there the G&F was there and asked if they could take samples for testing.  They did and gave me a code number for the samples so a few weeks later I was able to go on their website to find out the results, which were negative.  Here in Michigan we can't bring a whole animal into the state regardless of where it was killed, so it looks like we are a lot stricter than the Wis. rules!

Mike Stephenson
aka Topgun----30-06

Yeah, I don't think they have a problem with taking deer into the cwd zone, it is taking them out where they have a problem. I'd like to know where you are supposed to get paperwork that says your elk is not from a cwd area.

The Wyoming big game tags have right on them where they are good for and I presume that would be good enough for Wisconsin.  Wyoming has a list of all the units where any animal has tested positive for CWD that is easy to access right in the application booklet.

Mike Stephenson
aka Topgun----30-06

The county I hunt in, in Wi is both a CWD zone and non-cwd zone, and is divided by a hwy. This makes is it difficult since it is both. I do my proccessing at my folks house which is 2.5 hrs south of where I hunt and cross several of ea of these zones in transit. If I were to have the whole carcass on my hitch rack, I could feasibly get a ticket for transporting this animal. That to me is rediculous. The same goes for bringing the antlers back from out west from an elk. If they were in a trailer and I was running down the hwy to Wi. they could give me a ticket for them if every pc of hide and or tissue was not removed. Now tell me guys, just how may of you, after cutting the skullplate off, get every pc of tissue off of it. Then you have the times where, if it is a good head from a deer and you want your hometown taxi to do the work and are not real good at caping all the way down, where you would cape down to the neck and bring the head with the neck to him. Now what do you do? You would not be able to bring it home to Wi at all under these new laws. It would force you to have it done wherever you killed it at and pay their prices instead of the bargain you would get from your local taxi guy. MPO.

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

Some of these laws do have some merit and yet others seem pretty ridiculous.....I too would be torqued about having to have my deer butchered before my drive to home base where I normally butcher my own.....That brings up one more peave of mine that WI (and MN) do not allow the field boning of an animal before it is registered.....The call in method that some southern states have seems like a perfect solution (except that cell service is not available everywhere)...

One of the things that WI and other states have agreed on that CWD is transmitted where animals are in close proximity to others.....If that is a source of disease transmission, then why hasn't WI outlawed the use of baiting as a "hunting" method?.....I have hunted WI for over 45 years and the hunting experience has been greatly diminished since the Wisconsin Bowhunters Association lobby-ed to allow the use of baiting in I believe, if I remember right, was the mid eighties....They claimed they were being discriminated against by bear hunters....Of course if a person understands the two types of hunting they should realize they are two different things completely.....Not to get too far of course here.....The spread of CWD among wild deer is more than likely caused or partially caused by the practice of baiting and that is where the WI DNR should really be focusing their efforts....

In addition the practice of baiting borders on un-ethical by many including non-hunters...Anti-hunters really eat this up and the CWD vs Baiting controversy is fuel for their fires....They eventually will be able to persuade some non-hunters to their side of the fence because of this issue......

About 50% of WI hunters are in favor of the bait ban in WI....Let us spread the truth to others and get the DNR to persuade the State legislature to finally abolish this monkey on our backs....

Randy

My county is kind of split when it comes to baiting, but you can go one county north and do all the time. Makes no sense to me at all. Any county that does not border a CWD county can bait, Hummmmmmmmmmm, what's wrong with this picture. And on the subject of another deer eating the flesh of a dead one, which is where this is really stemming from, who thinks another will? Surely not me..............I see no other deer eating any dropped tissue from another. That is tha tpart of this law that is so frickin rediculous. I am in favor of not spreading this dsiease but come on DNR, BREATH for a min. Pull it out of your a$$es for once. MPO

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

I agree the DNR needs an anal extraction, But I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree on the baiting issue.I don't believe that baiting has had anything atall to do with the spread of CWD. The northern counties where baiting is used the heaviest has no CWD. And the more agricultural counties where baiting is used the least is where the CWD is the most common.

Could it be that it is in the ground that is turned up the most? Hummmmmmmmm, kind of makes you wonder huh? Or maybe where the land is covered in the remains of the barn gutters after they are cleaned out from the cattle? Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm again.

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I'll have to ponder that one for awhile.

I do know from what I've read about CWD that it remains in the ground for ages and can reinfect animals if they are introduced into the area.  That is one thing that is so scary about it because there does not seem to be a way to disinfect an area, etc., to get rid of it.

Mike Stephenson
aka Topgun----30-06

The really bad about it all is that it has been around for yrs and yrs and since the uproar in the west, states like Wi have taken it to the extreme. It is just like the Valley Fever in Ca. It is dormant until the ground gets turned up enough to make it airbourne. Ca. had not had it for a long time until they started doing all the const. further out of the cities and then "hello" I'm back.

Gary Scheel
NAHC LM,RMEF LM,NRA Member, Lonestar Bowhunter, TexasHogHunter Pro Staff Member

Yes, I did read the findings of one study stating that the prions thought to be causing CWD were found in certain clay type soils....Again the concentration of animals might be stirring up these "soils"....Commercially raised deer and elk are the most susceptible...But if CWD is coming from the dirt then the concentration at "hunter" bait stations might be another source of dirt stirring......(I would love to see baiting outlawed everywhere..Am I grasping at straws?)....
 
IMHO,
Randy