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Quota set for wolf hunting - Friday, July 10, 2009 4:35 PM ( #1 )
Quota set for wolf hunting
By EVE BYRON - Independent Record - 07/09/09
Barring legal intervention, Montana will have its first official gray wolf hunting season this fall, after the Fish, Wildlife and Parks Commission unanimously agreed Wednesday to a 75-wolf quota.

State officials said the historic decision represents a victory for wildlife conservation in Montana and for the often maligned federal Endangered Species Act.

“Today, we can celebrate the fact that Montana manages elk, deer, bears, mountain lions, ducks, bighorn sheep, and wolves in balance with their habitats, other species, and in balance with the people who live here,” said FWP Director Joe Maurier. “Montanans have worked hard to recover the Rocky Mountain wolf and to integrate wolves into Montana’s wildlife management programs. That’s always been the promise of the Endangered Species Act, and we’re pleased so see it fulfilled here in Montana.”

However, wolf advocates already have filed two lawsuits in federal court contesting the removal of gray wolves in Montana and Idaho from the protection offered by the Endangered Species Act, and say they expect to ask a judge to intervene in the wolf hunt.

“We’re looking closely at what Montana and Idaho do regarding hunting,” said Doug Honnold, an attorney with Earthjustice. “Montana has acted and Idaho hasn’t. We haven’t filed papers yet (seeking an injunction) but I expect that we will.”

Mike Garrity, executive director of the Helena-based Alliance for the Wild Rockies, added that Montana shouldn’t have a wolf hunting season until the population is fully recovered.

“To do that, wolves need to expand out of Montana. So they need the population to increase until it forces wolves to move out the state,” Garrity said. His is one of 13 groups represented by Earthjustice, which filed the federal court lawsuit in May.

A majority of the 180 public comments submitted to the commission, however, stated that not only should a hunting season take place, but the proposed range of a 26 to 165 wolf quota was too low.

“Even with a quota of 165, it is very unlikely that the kill will be reached,” wrote John Backs of St. Ignatius. “We are tired of wolves hammering our moose and elk herds in many areas. Tell the pro-wolf crowd to go bark up a tree. Stand up for the sportsmen of Montana, not a bunch of East Coast and West Coast wolf lovers who don’t have to put up with the wolves in their back yards.”

Montana is home to at least 500 gray wolves, with another 846 residing in Idaho and 302 in Wyoming. An estimated 1,000 wolf pups were born in the Northern Rockies this spring.

Wolves in Wyoming remain under federal protection. But with the removal of wolves from the list of endangered species in Montana and Idaho, those states officially took over their management from the federal U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Part of the management plans call for wolf hunts to keep the population in check.

Idaho is expected to set a wolf hunting quota in August, according to Ken McDonald, FWP chief of wildlife.

In recommending the 75-wolf quota, McDonald said Montana is performing a balancing act. The state needs to learn how successful hunters will be to incorporate that into wolf management plans, but he didn’t want a quota that’s too high, which might prompt a judge to order an injunction stopping all hunting.

“The higher the (quota) the higher the risk for an injunction,” McDonald said.

He added that even if they went with the highest suggested quota of 165 wolves, the population is still expected to grow. If all 75 permits are filled, the wolf population in Montana would still increase from 500 to 665, based on FWP models.

“We think (75) is enough to give us an understanding of the effectiveness of hunting while still leaving room to address concerns,” McDonald said. “This will be a one-time decision, too. We’ll be coming back in December for the biennium season settin
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:04 AM ( #2 )
I can see their point about not wanting to set the quota too high for fears of it getting stopped again, but everything I have heard and read, they are way below what it should be for kills. As far as letting the wolf pop grow to force them to move to diff states is just ludacris. What makes them believe they will? Besides the packs don't get along? Come on guys, use your heads here.
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:14 AM ( #3 )
Now why would they want to go and do that, LOL?  The damn things have now gone out all the way into the area I hunt in Wyoming and have killed over 60 sheep, over 30 on the ranch next to where I hunt.  We are probably 200 miles from the Yellowstone ecosystem and they just continue to expand.  I guess the Feds are going to try and wipe the ones out where I hunt if they can.  I know there are a couple of very unhappy ranchers out there right now!!! 
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:44 AM ( #4 )
Wait until the pop. forces them into other areas out of the state? for one, how do they know they havn't done that already? There are wolves in every state all around us. They have their own problems so why would they want more wolve and more problems? Plus one of the reasons they move into other areas is because there is nothing left to kill in this area. If we wait till Idaho wolves are coming into Mont. and visa versa witch I beleive is already happening to some extent we will have nothing left for us. The herds are already in bad shape. Season or not, It doesn't make much difference to most out here. SSS. And I really don't think hunting them is going to make much diff.. They are way too elusive. Now trapping them could make a diff. I don't know if that will be allowed in the plan though.
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:37 PM ( #5 )
Deadeye,
 I have gone to several of the Mountianman Roundups down in Pinedale,Wy. and all of those guys have wolf hides from that season. Hummmmmmmmmmmm, how did they get them? If they are protected, how can they display them? How do they not get them taken away? How do they not get ticketed for having them? Things that make you go "Hummmmmmmmmmmm".
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:02 PM ( #6 )
Well, I'm pretty sure you can get hides from Canada and Alaska but you have to have proof of where they came from. There was a guy here that was bragging about shooting a wolf and tanning the hide by himself. Someone finally turned him in and the truth came out. He bought the hide somewhere and had proof of purchase. His story changed after that.
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:58 PM ( #7 )
Those guys were getting anywhere from 375-450 per hide, depending on color.  Not from me.........LOL
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:01 PM ( #8 )
Hey Tx,
 
not much money in pelts, but here is one suggestion for taking care of those pesky wolves...let'em into the nascar events! Aerodynamics suffer but what a nice hood ornament...


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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Thursday, August 06, 2009 2:08 PM ( #9 )
Holy Hood Ornament, Batman!
 
That is an unbelievable picture!
 
I have a chance to kill a wolf in Manitoba while on my bear hunt this fall.  If things go my way; hopefully, I'll have a dead wolf to show you all as well as a bear.
 
Take care and Good Hunting!
 
Best Afield,
 
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:04 PM ( #10 )
They are a "Grand Prize" for a bowhunter to get one. Good luck Steve!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:19 PM ( #11 )
Gary:
 
Thanks for the good luck wish!  I'm sure going to try.  I'm going to bring along a tree stand and some climbing sticks so I can get up high in the air and sit there all day to eventually get a chance to ventilate one.
 
Take care and Good Hunting!
 
Best Afield,
 
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Friday, August 07, 2009 7:58 PM ( #12 )
That would be a good idea bud. That way you can stay "mobile" and not be locked into just one or 2 stand sites. Still trying to figure out just what kind of veh that was with the wolf hood ornament.
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:25 AM ( #13 )
I believe that is a dirt track race car.
 
Take care and Good Hunting!
 
Best Afield,
 
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Saturday, August 08, 2009 7:59 PM ( #14 )
Cool, a new hunting tool....................LOL
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Monday, August 17, 2009 6:13 PM ( #15 )
I just got an E mail on this incident.  It turns out that it was a NASCAR car.

Here's the story:

This happened back in June.

Joe Gibbs Racing driver Brad Coleman was testing a Gibbs NASCAR Sprint Cup Series car at Toyota Arizona Proving Grounds earlier this week and came onto the radio and told his crew something rather unusual.
 
"Guys, I hit a coyote," Coleman said.
 
Coleman was running close to 200 mph around the 10-mile test track when he saw the animal wander under the outside guardrail.
 
"I'm in the middle of the corner, and I'm doing like 190," Coleman said Friday at Nashville Superspeedway before practicing his Nationwide Series car "I'm just cruising.  You run the high line there, because that's where the most banking is. It's the high-speed lane.  There's just a guardrail there like on the freeway.
 
"I see this thing; it must've been 100 feet in front of me, just jump out.  Right when I saw it come out from under the guardrail, I was like, 'That's a coyote.'"
 
"It just started smoking like crazy," Coleman said.  "And it smelled terrible.  I didn't see anything in the mirror, so I was like, 'I wonder where it went?'  I said, 'Guys, I hit a coyote.  I'm going to come in because I think it screwed up the radiator.  I think it clogged up the grille a little bit.'"


Take care and Good Hunting!

Best Afield,

Steve
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RE: Quota set for wolf hunting - Monday, August 17, 2009 6:25 PM ( #16 )
"Clogged up the grill alittle bit", that would be an understatement. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
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