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Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:07 PM ( #1 )

The polar bear may now be a symbol for why the world must curb climate change in the Arctic.
But polar bear management was a source of frustration and anger this week in Iqaluit when hunters, officials and members of the Nunavut Wildlife Management Board met to consider a Government of Nunavut proposal to lower the polar bear quota for Baffin Bay.

“Inuit are very patient, but now that patience is wearing thin,” said Koalie Kooneeliusie of Qikiqtarjuaq’s Nattivak hunters and trappers association.

Kooneeliusie spoke at a special public meeting of the Nunavut Wildlife Management Board held Sept. 29 and Sept. 30 in Iqaluit.

Consensus on a reduction to the polar bear quota in the Baffin Bay appeared unattainable as researchers and hunters disagreed.

Hunters threatened to completely ignore the quotas if they see any cut to their quota of 105, which is split between Pond Inlet, Qikiqtarjuaq and Clyde River.

“If the quota is cut, things will get hot,” said Jayko Allooloo from the Qikiqtani Wildlife Board.

“If it’s lower, we’ll hunt what we want,” Manasie Audlakiak of Clyde River’s Nangmautaq hunters and trappers association said, predicting a revolt among Inuit hunters if polar bear quotas are reduced.

The wildlife board called the meeting at the request of the GN, which obliged the board to move its regularily scheduled meeting from Kugluktuk to Iqaluit.

The board had to respond to a GN request made as a “ministerial management initiative” from Environment Minister Daniel Shewchuk, who called the Baffin Bay harvest of 105 polar bears “a continued conservation concern” in a June 30 letter.

Referring to science, which says the number of polar bears in the Baffin Bay population fell from 2,100 to 1,500 over the past 10 years, Shewchuk said the current quota was not “sustainable” and should be changed before the start of the hunt in October.

“It is critical for effective management that we get BB back on track,” Shewchuk told Henry Flaherty, chair of the wildlife board, which can recommend measures to establish, modify or remove total allowable harvests in Nunavut.

The GN suggested three options for reductions: cutting the current quota from 105 to 64, imposing a total moratorium on the hunt until numbers recovered to 2,000, or imposing another quota based on a new population estimate.

But hunters from Pond Inlet, Clyde River and Qikiqtarjuaq who came to the Iqaluit meeting said right from the start that the GN has it all wrong.

They say quota cuts are unnecessary because there are more polar bears, not fewer.

And they slammed southern media who have made polar bears a symbol of climate change, to be protected at all costs.

“Those who talk about Baffin Bay bears decreasing in numbers have never been there personally, they should come to the area and experience it for themselves… Why do we Inuit have to have our economic situation interfered with?” said Jaykolasie Kiliktee of Pond Inlet’s hunters and trappers association.

“Those are our bears and we can hunt the way we want,” said Lootie Thomasie of Qikiqtarjuaq’s hunters and trappers association.

And it isn’t fair for Inuit hunters in Baffin Bay to be penalized for climate change when they don’t produce any greenhouse gases, yet another speaker said.

Many also criticized research methods that rely on computer generated models to calculate polar bear numbers.

They deplored the small role given to Inuit traditional knowledge in polar bear research, which, they said, had worked well for them over many generations.

Some speakers suggested that biologists be sent “on holiday” while Inuit hunters take over their research.

In defence of science’s numbers, GN polar bear biologist Lily Peacock responded that scientific methods are “quite old” and involve “simple adding and subtracting” with variables to make the results “more t
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:52 PM ( #2 )
I think I would probably side on the guys that live with the bears every day. Not the ones that get to go out for a couple of weeks a year and count the bears that they can find. I've never hunted for polar bears but don't they migrate heavily depending on ice flow and such. I think I read or saw a show about it. Can't remember. Anyways, I wouldn't know how to get an accurate count on polar bears, other than ask the people that live with them, hunt them, and defend their property from them.
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:35 PM ( #3 )
  What KO said!!  Ask them to keep track of bear sightings/encounters instead of the "partime" observers!
 
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:16 AM ( #4 )
They do the same thing in Wi for the surveys instead of gettingout and REALLY doing their job and getting an acurate count. Guesstimate the bear and deer pop's, never see a wolf and call it good. Oh yeah , completely forget about the thought of any mt lions too.
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:19 PM ( #5 )
Yeah ... that "survey" dealie to decide on critter populations is a SWAG ... everybuddy here is worried about the pheasant population and how few birds there are ... I drive the roads every day I'm werkin', but I do it @ 3 to 7 mph ... amazin' whut a person can see if they slow down ... sure, the population is down, but last year wuz a record for # of birds ...

Same with the moose deal ... the G&F talked to landowners and did a "survey" and decided that the numbers were down, so they cut the tags in my home unit ... in a span of less than 36 hours, we saw enuf cows and calves to fill 60 percent of the tags -- in an area less than six miles across (and it's a LARGE unit) ... AND ... merely frum local gossip, I know of more than one-third of the tags for that unit that got filled on opening day ...

my personal thot on folks sayin' there's less moose is that the critters are hidin' better, or the folks in that area have been seein' 'em for so long (35 years or more since we started huntin' mooses in Nodak) that they don't notice 'em as much ...

Uh-huh ... "science" ... gotta be true if a "scientific" method is used, right?
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Friday, October 09, 2009 2:09 PM ( #6 )
I know in eastern oregon the Fish and Game would fly over the elk and deer herds out on the foothills and flats and count them that way, but I always wondered how they counted the herds down in the dark, deep, nasty canyons where I always saw and hunted them. I think it would be called an educated guess at best. Same deal it's, "complicated science".
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Friday, October 09, 2009 2:15 PM ( #7 )
Now that I stop and think about it.... I bad mouth the Fish and Game quite a bit on here. I think I should let you guys know, I think that the OREGON Fish and Game are a bunch of bumbling fools. But other states I've been in I think have awesome Game Departments. Alaska is by far the best I've ever dealt with. They are there FOR the hunters. They understand the hunters role in management. Unlike other before mentioned states, Alaska is in it for the interest of wildlife and management, not just money. Didn't want you guys to think I was just a grumpy middle aged man
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:00 PM ( #8 )
ko' ... nuthin' worng with bein' a "grumpy, middle-aged man" ...

I've been doin' it for quite some time now ...
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:36 PM ( #9 )
You should try dealing with the Wi. morons once. All other are saints compared to these idiots.
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:15 PM ( #10 )
Amen to that Brother. WI has the worst fish and game department in the lower 48.
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Monday, October 12, 2009 2:33 PM ( #11 )
Glad to see I'm not the only that gets frustrated with the fish and game dept and can't do anything about it. I've moved on since from Oregon but I still check up on them every now and then. I feel bad for alot of my friends that are still there. Every year Oregon finds a way to get more money out of hunters and the hunters get little to nothing in return.
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Monday, October 12, 2009 7:57 PM ( #12 )
Getting back to the original post, let the hunters manage their bears. They, better than anyone, know how many there are and how many they can take. Those people have been hunting bear for how long to feed their villages?
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:57 PM ( #13 )
I couldn't agree more Dodge!!
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RE: Hunters threaten revolt over polar bear quotas - Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:22 PM ( #14 )
I agree also guys, let the hunter that live and breath the same air as the bears day ater days handle their own. They know just how many they need to harvest for the yr to feed the village and their families and no one can take care of that but them. They know how, where and how many animals are htere from being there day after day not the USFG Dept.
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